Harry Potter - The Hogwarts Experience

Enroll at Hogwarts, be sorted into houses, take classes, earn house points, live the virtual Hogwarts experience
Home­Portal­Calendar­FAQ­Search­Register­Memberlist­Hogwarts Quill­Log in
Announcement Board

21st February - Braw New Quill, here!

HP Theme Park  Celebrations Forum: Come and take part in all we've devised fro you right HERE!

The beginning of the term (Feb 21st is approaching fast). A lot of updating is going around. Check out for the news soon. Some you can already check them HERE!

Pensieve Writers Needed! Check out.
This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.Share | 
 

 DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Goto page : 1, 2, 3  Next
AuthorMessage
Raistlin The Wizard
Headmaster : Slytherin Head of House: Astronomy & DADA Professor : 7th Year : Fear Me!
Headmaster : Slytherin Head of House: Astronomy & DADA Professor : 7th Year : Fear Me!


Male
Registration date: 2006-07-27
Number of posts: 7482
Age: 22
Location: That's a secret I can only tell that i'm up to no good!
Real First Name: It's something I try to forget so Raistlin it's to me my real name...
Country:
House: Slytherin of Course The Only House worthy of my Talents
Crest:
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
100 / 100100 / 100

Contribution Points: 3149

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Raistlin Majere
Race: Wizard
Good or Evil: Neutral

PostSubject: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Wed 11 Jul - 14:52

Welcome to the first DADA debate. The theme of this discussion is "To embrace or to fight the dark arts".

Every wizard and witch at some point has to choose either to be on the Dark side or to fight it.

I want you to discuss the reasons that take someone to choose one side or the other. What are the pros and cons of each side? Which side would you choose and why?

As this is a delicate subject please respect everyone's opinion and choices.

_________________
Something Wicca This Way Comes!

Set Made By Marie, Owned by Amber and Borrowed to Me!


Last edited by on Thu 9 Aug - 16:31; edited 2 times in total
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://raistlinthewizard.blogspot.com/
magicguy93
6th Year
6th Year


Male
Registration date: 2007-02-11
Number of posts: 6760
Age: 16
Location: Trying to escape from the insane asylum that I call school.
Real First Name: Chris
Country:
House: GRYFFINDOR BUT RAVENCLAW AT HEART
Crest:
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
0 / 1000 / 100

Contribution Points: 1199

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Chris Potter/ Ryan Osment/ Brandy Osbourn-Osment/ Logan Bishop
Race: Wizard
Good or Evil: Order of the Phoenix

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Wed 11 Jul - 23:20

I would fight the Dark Arts because it's evil and it is useed to hurt people and the good side helps people.

_________________

Do you ever think when you're all alone
All that we can be, where this thing can go?
Am I crazy or falling in love?
Is it real or just another crush?




Honorary Ravenclaw
Hermione Granger's Lover
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://magic-world.nice-forum.net
streams of silver
6th Year
6th Year


Female
Registration date: 2006-02-22
Number of posts: 6452
Age: 21
Location: (insert clever statement here)
Real First Name: What is real?
Country:
House: Hufflepuff, of course. I thought it was obvious...
Crest:
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
15 / 10015 / 100

Contribution Points: 1536

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Lani Elphinstone
Race: Witch
Good or Evil: Neutral

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Thu 12 Jul - 0:28

Raistlin The Wizard wrote:
As this is a delicate subject please respect everyone's opinion and choices.


Hahaha. Well said.

Anyway, I'm a bit confused about the subject, are we discussing the Dark Arts or the Dark side? They are very often linked together, but in my mind they have clear distinctions. I would embrace the Dark Arts because it contains many spells of immense power and complexity. I feel it is important to know the Dark Arts from the 'inside' before one can attempt to fight it, since none of the defensive spells quite match up in power. That said, I would probably not be on the Dark side because I do not enjoy hurting people, even if it is to my benefit. I disagree with the principles of the Dark side and generally don't like the way they operate, so if push came to shove I would probably fight them.

_________________




RIP HOLLY
Champion of M&Ms . . . always loved and never forgotten.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.thegiftbp.com
stephy
Ravenclaw 2nd Head : Graduate
Ravenclaw 2nd Head : Graduate


Female
Registration date: 2006-06-04
Number of posts: 26728
Age: 19
Location: At the Cullen's house stealing Jasper
Real First Name: Stephanie, Polly calls me Stephums, Kim calls me Steffie and among others Im either mommy or granny
Country:
House: ravenclaw
Crest:
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
15 / 10015 / 100

Contribution Points: 5418

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Oddie Riddle; Mathew Riddle; Scelestus; Mark
Race: Werewolf
Good or Evil: Spy for the Order

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Thu 12 Jul - 3:21

i agree with streams of silver... with the Dark Arts you must understand them before you can fight against them... Sure they are bad but so long as you dont use them in order to gain something for yourslef then i do not think that they are so bad.... i think that they are bad if you use them incorrectly.

_________________


"Have I gone mad?; "I'm afraid so, you've gone completely bonkers, but I'll let you in on a secret, the best ones always are"

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.myspace.com/oddie_faneenala
streams of silver
6th Year
6th Year


Female
Registration date: 2006-02-22
Number of posts: 6452
Age: 21
Location: (insert clever statement here)
Real First Name: What is real?
Country:
House: Hufflepuff, of course. I thought it was obvious...
Crest:
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
15 / 10015 / 100

Contribution Points: 1536

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Lani Elphinstone
Race: Witch
Good or Evil: Neutral

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Thu 12 Jul - 5:39

The Dark Arts, much like anything else, can be a tool--used for whatever purpose its user wishes. It is true though that most of the Dark Arts spells are sinister or dangerous in nature, and it is hard to understand how such Dark spells can be used for good. The truth is, the end doesn't justify the means, and if someone is on the 'good' side they shouldn't be using Dark spells too often. However, many of the so-called 'good' spells can be used for evil.

Only people can be evil--spells cannot be evil. Evil people can use ANY spell to fulfill their evil deeds, not necessarily just the Dark Arts.

You can say that Avada Kedavra for example is evil, no? Because it kills. However, death is not evil. Murder, yes murder is evil. So the fact that Avada Kedavra exists? That is not evil. But if someone uses Avada Kedavra to kill an innocent person, than they are evil.

And defensive spells, spells that are supposedly on the 'good' side can kill too, if the person casting the spell is trying to kill. If you levitate someone off a balcony and then let go, you've attempted murder using a fairly simple, 'good' spell.

_________________




RIP HOLLY
Champion of M&Ms . . . always loved and never forgotten.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.thegiftbp.com
polly
7th Year
7th Year


Female
Registration date: 2006-03-12
Number of posts: 10716
Age: 17
Location: England
Real First Name: Polly
Country:
House: Ravenclaw!
Crest:
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
11 / 10011 / 100

Contribution Points: 1670

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Polly Swindail
Race: Witch
Good or Evil: Dumbledores Army

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Thu 12 Jul - 14:28

There are many good points in using the dark arts for example the feeling of power and the feeling of satisfactory. The down side may be that you could become endorsed so much into the dark arts that they take over you.



(sorry I shall edit this when I get in I have not finished but the crazy teacher is screaming at me to get of so...)

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Rigby Dumbledore
5th Year
5th Year


Female
Registration date: 2007-01-30
Number of posts: 4390
Location: Forks, Washington...with Edward!
Real First Name: Kate or Katie, Beggar of positive rep points.
Country:
House: Ravenclaw
Crest:
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
92 / 10092 / 100

Contribution Points: 1388

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Rigby Dumbledore
Race: Witch
Good or Evil: Order of the Phoenix

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Thu 12 Jul - 20:20

I myself would only want to learn what I needed to counter-act the Dark Arts but I can see their appeal. Look at most of the wizards that joined Voldemort- they are people seeking power. Unhappy with their current positions they look to the Dark Arts for ways to launch them into postions of power and money, the faster the better. They are not people who like following rules, and although they obey Voldemort it is only out of fear. Had Lord Voldemort won control he would constantly have to defend his role as leader. Lucious Malfoy, for instance, would eventually bridle under the Dark Lord harsh reign. I believe that the Dark Arts calls to people who by and large see themselves as better than others, and they often seek to use the Dark Arts to increase their powers over people. Take Snape and his love of the Dark Arts. Snape as a child was intelligent and yet he was a social outcast. The fact that he was a superior wizared than those that tormented him made him an easy conver to the Death Eaters. Dark Arts are difficult to master- presenting a challenge to a skilled wizard, but once learned they can give you the power to defeat anyone that ever dared look down upon you.

While I understand all these draws of the Dark Arts, I myself see them as dangerous and cowardly spells. But in order to know your enemy you must understand what makes them who they are. A thorough knowledge of the Dark Arts is necessary in order to defend yourself, but one must be careful to not be tempted to use them for evil.

_________________

Thanks to Amy for my AWESOME Bday sig!!!!!XD
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://midnightbookclub.heavenforum.com
stephy
Ravenclaw 2nd Head : Graduate
Ravenclaw 2nd Head : Graduate


Female
Registration date: 2006-06-04
Number of posts: 26728
Age: 19
Location: At the Cullen's house stealing Jasper
Real First Name: Stephanie, Polly calls me Stephums, Kim calls me Steffie and among others Im either mommy or granny
Country:
House: ravenclaw
Crest:
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
15 / 10015 / 100

Contribution Points: 5418

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Oddie Riddle; Mathew Riddle; Scelestus; Mark
Race: Werewolf
Good or Evil: Spy for the Order

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Fri 13 Jul - 2:28

in agree with Rigby and streams of silver... there is no such thing as a bad spell... its the user who is bad.... and that the 'Dark Arts calls to people who by and large see themselves as better than others, and they often seek to use the Dark Arts to increase their powers over people' as Rigby had said..... I belive that if Snape wasnt consumed by the Dark Arts and had a better [ast then he would have been a much nicer person.

_________________


"Have I gone mad?; "I'm afraid so, you've gone completely bonkers, but I'll let you in on a secret, the best ones always are"

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.myspace.com/oddie_faneenala
hermionegrwhp
1st Year
1st Year


Female
Registration date: 2007-05-04
Number of posts: 35
Age: 14
Location: Beverlly Hills,California
Real First Name: Wendie
House: gryffindor
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
0 / 1000 / 100

Contribution Points: 1052

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: wendy hermione weasley
Race: Witch
Good or Evil: Dumbledores Army

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Sat 14 Jul - 20:41

i would learn how to defend myself from the dark arts and how to fight them becuase there bad and there very evil and they dangerous and could kill someone and i would fight them and destroy them if i could.

_________________

I Am your Hip Hop Queen. I wanna see you break it down now.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://harrypotterclub.makeforum.org
stephy
Ravenclaw 2nd Head : Graduate
Ravenclaw 2nd Head : Graduate


Female
Registration date: 2006-06-04
Number of posts: 26728
Age: 19
Location: At the Cullen's house stealing Jasper
Real First Name: Stephanie, Polly calls me Stephums, Kim calls me Steffie and among others Im either mommy or granny
Country:
House: ravenclaw
Crest:
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
15 / 10015 / 100

Contribution Points: 5418

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Oddie Riddle; Mathew Riddle; Scelestus; Mark
Race: Werewolf
Good or Evil: Spy for the Order

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Sun 15 Jul - 1:31

Many feel the same way as you hermionegrwhp. But I dont really think that the spells themselves are dabgerous like streams of silver had said... its the caster that it bad not the spell

_________________


"Have I gone mad?; "I'm afraid so, you've gone completely bonkers, but I'll let you in on a secret, the best ones always are"

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.myspace.com/oddie_faneenala
Ginny13
1st Year
1st Year


Female
Registration date: 2007-05-22
Number of posts: 59
Age: 15
Location: In front of my computer
Real First Name: Claire
House: Hufflepuff
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
0 / 1000 / 100

Contribution Points: 1034

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Ginny
Race: Witch
Good or Evil: Dumbledores Army

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Mon 16 Jul - 16:47

I would fight the dark arts and the dark wizards because dark wizard or dark spell it's still bad
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Kendra_McKie
2nd Year
2nd Year


Female
Registration date: 2007-07-13
Number of posts: 377
Age: 19
Real First Name: Kat
House: Hufflepuff
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
0 / 1000 / 100

Contribution Points: 982

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Kendra McKie
Race: Witch
Good or Evil: Dumbledores Army

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Tue 17 Jul - 1:00

The subjectivity of one's view upon what they define as good and its disparity from what they define as evil will perpetuate such a moot yet fascinating discussion. Clearly, a question that truly must be pondered revolves around the synonymous use of "dark" and "bad." Just because something is dark, does that necessarily make it bad? Certainly, some "dark magic" can be used for dreadful and terrifying things, but in some instances "dark" can be used with good intention. For instance, the Polyjuice Potion, a potion derived from the darkest of potions, can be used to obtain information from a foe and thus defeat this foe. Utilizing an element of considerable "dark" power actually, in the end, may help those with good intentions prevail. In turn, one could use clean magic of "Wingardium Leviosa" to lift a giant piano over someone's head and drop it to murder them.

The sole difference between dark and light magic truly depends on the source from which a spell may take its energy as well as the intention by the caster of the spell. Except, of course, for the Unforgivable Curses, many Dark Arts may be used with perfectly good intention. Thus, it truly depends on which side the caster chooses to fight.

As a wizard, I would choose to fight those with intentions to destroy others. As a wizarding society, we and we together have worked so hard to create something priceless and worthwhile, and those wishing to destroy so much in order to gain maximum power truly oppose everything for which we have worked.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.myspace.com/nekochan52
stephy
Ravenclaw 2nd Head : Graduate
Ravenclaw 2nd Head : Graduate


Female
Registration date: 2006-06-04
Number of posts: 26728
Age: 19
Location: At the Cullen's house stealing Jasper
Real First Name: Stephanie, Polly calls me Stephums, Kim calls me Steffie and among others Im either mommy or granny
Country:
House: ravenclaw
Crest:
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
15 / 10015 / 100

Contribution Points: 5418

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Oddie Riddle; Mathew Riddle; Scelestus; Mark
Race: Werewolf
Good or Evil: Spy for the Order

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Tue 17 Jul - 2:29

Kat does got a good point there..... You can make the spells that everyone think are harmless deadly

_________________


"Have I gone mad?; "I'm afraid so, you've gone completely bonkers, but I'll let you in on a secret, the best ones always are"

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.myspace.com/oddie_faneenala
Ginny13
1st Year
1st Year


Female
Registration date: 2007-05-22
Number of posts: 59
Age: 15
Location: In front of my computer
Real First Name: Claire
House: Hufflepuff
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
0 / 1000 / 100

Contribution Points: 1034

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Ginny
Race: Witch
Good or Evil: Dumbledores Army

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Tue 17 Jul - 12:55

I would still fight the dark wizard even if it was a simple spell.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
stephy
Ravenclaw 2nd Head : Graduate
Ravenclaw 2nd Head : Graduate


Female
Registration date: 2006-06-04
Number of posts: 26728
Age: 19
Location: At the Cullen's house stealing Jasper
Real First Name: Stephanie, Polly calls me Stephums, Kim calls me Steffie and among others Im either mommy or granny
Country:
House: ravenclaw
Crest:
Warning:
0 / 30 / 3

Award Bar:
15 / 10015 / 100

Contribution Points: 5418

RPG Forum : Great Hall
RPG Character Name: Oddie Riddle; Mathew Riddle; Scelestus; Mark
Race: Werewolf
Good or Evil: Spy for the Order

PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08   Wed 18 Jul - 2:34

well even the most simplist spells can do huge things

_________________


"Have I gone mad?; "I'm afraid so, you've gone completely bonkers, but I'll let you in on a secret, the best ones always are"

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.myspace.com/oddie_faneenala
 

DISCUSSION - Embrace or Fight the Dark Arts 11/08

View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 3Goto page : 1, 2, 3  Next

Permissions of this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Harry Potter - The Hogwarts Experience :: Classes :: Hogwarts Experience Classes :: Defense Against the Dark Arts :: Completed DADA Classes-
This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.