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LilyFlower 5th Year


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 | Subject: Discussion: The Blank Rune does it really exist? Tue 21 Aug - 0:24 | |
| Ancient Runes Discussion: The Blank Rune does it really exist?
Welcome to the first discussion of the new term! This will be the first of many discussions within this class, you know how it works. Discuss various points and opinions of the topic. The more involved you are in the discussion, the more points youll rack up within the class. No double posting allowed but you can post more than once within this thread and I expect you all to be involved! While a debate may spark within this discussion, please remember to keep it friendly. A few key points to cover within your posts Make sure to state your opinion does it exist or not? What is the Blank Rune? What is its significance within the runic alphabet? What are different theories? Etc Make sure to cover majority of the points I have listed. If you find something that I cant or bring a new idea to light you will receive an extra 5 points on the discussion. The best within the class will also receive the extra 5 points.
Possible points total: 50
Make sure to add sources! Anyone that forgets to add their sources will automatically have 5 points deducted!
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Bella Muerte 3rd Year


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 | Subject: Re: Discussion: The Blank Rune does it really exist? Tue 21 Aug - 2:08 | |
| The Runic Alphabet is an alphabet of letters known as runes. The Runic Alphabet was thought to be created by the Germanic people in the first or second century. It was used mainly in the British Isles and Scandinavia. Today, runes are mostly used in divination. The Blank Rune was supposedly introduced by inaccurate information in the Book of Runes by Ralph Bum. The Blank Rune, also known as an "Odin Rune" or "Wyrd Rune", does not really have a purpose in the Runic Alphabet. When you purchase a rune set that has the blank rune, they generally tell you to take it aside and keep it in case you lose another rune piece. Most people will tell you not to use the blank rune in rune casting. There is no historical evidence that says anyone hundreds of years ago ever used a blank rune. A rune is a symbol, not what the symbol is on, so how can there be a blank rune? "Have you ever seen a blank symbol? Of course not, that's an oxymoron." I, personally, do not think that the blank rune exists. Blank Rune_________________ "Why do you feel so guilty for touching me?" Because I am using you, my dear, because an artist uses everything.
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Elana Ravenclaw 2nd Head : Charms & SPS Professor : 7th year


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RPG Forum : Great Hall RPG Character Name: Claire Johnson Race: Witch Good or Evil: Order of the Phoenix
 | Subject: Re: Discussion: The Blank Rune does it really exist? Tue 21 Aug - 2:52 | |
| I do not think that the "blank rune" exists.
But, unfortunately, thanks to Mr. Ralph Blum and his book, many think otherwise.
The mystery surrounding this topic is one that I wish we could stop- anyone have an advanced timeturner we can use to go back in time and check up on those rune masters? *looks for a raised hand but sighs when none is seen* Okay then...well, I guess we're just going to have to discuss it and see where that takes us.
I'd like to point out some of my reasons for not believing in the existance of this rune:
- spaces between runes were commonly used in Runic writing, and those could be misinterpreted as "blank runes" - a symbol can't be a symbol if it is blank *rolls eyes* - nowhere has anyone been able to find concrete evidence of someone using a "blank rune" (if you have feel free to prove me wrong )
I'll think of some more, no worries.
I would love to hear more thoughts 
Source: http://www.runeschool.org/topics/rs_t_blank.htm (courtesy of Lily, hehe) |
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stephy Head Girl


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Elana Ravenclaw 2nd Head : Charms & SPS Professor : 7th year


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 | Subject: Re: Discussion: The Blank Rune does it really exist? Tue 21 Aug - 20:56 | |
| I agree Stephy, it just doesn't make sense for a rune to be blank and then people say to use it if you loose one if it had an actual purpose more important than that! I don't know too much about them either, but if you use your common sense you can see that much, lol. I wonder if we'll have an opposing viewer in this discussion :D |
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dragonweaver 4th Year


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 | Subject: Re: Discussion: The Blank Rune does it really exist? Tue 21 Aug - 21:58 | |
| I don't think that the blank rune exist because that mean there is no rune at all -because it's empty aka blank. So I don't think a blank rune exist because it actually doesn't mean anything. It like saying a invisible letter exisits. If you can't see it (like it's blank) then it's not there like one of j.d. salinger's story (teddy) says: | Quote: | | "It's interesting that I know about them being there. If I hadn't seen them, then I wouldn't know they were there, and if I didn't know they were there, I wouldn't be able to say that they even exist. |
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stephy Head Girl


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dragonweaver 4th Year


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 | Subject: Re: Discussion: The Blank Rune does it really exist? Wed 22 Aug - 5:35 | |
| Even though microrganisms are so small that you can't see it, scientist know and kind of 'saw' them on microscope and they have proof they are there. But a blank rune is well..blank there is no proof that anything's there because it's 'blank' or invisible. And the website below explains why the Blank Rune does not exisit Here's a quote from it: | Quote: | | There is no historical evidence that runemasters of old ever used a blank rune. It's self-evident because a rune is a symbol, not the token that carries it. Have you ever seen a blank symbol? Of course not |
http://sunnyway.com/runes/blank_rune.html |
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stephy Head Girl


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Rigby Dumbledore Deputy Head : Potions & HoM Professor : 5th Year : Head of Ravenclaw


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Ellemanae 2nd Head of Hufflepuff


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 | Subject: Re: Discussion: The Blank Rune does it really exist? Wed 22 Aug - 13:05 | |
| It is true that there is no solid evidence of the elders using what is known as the Blank Rune (or the void), yet how can we say something does not exist just because there is perhaps no written evidence?
One theory which suggests why this rune is blank is that we, as humans, will never and can never know everything there is to know, it is something the Gods will know only. It gives us something to strive for.
If this rune exists, it is perhaps not in this natural world as there are no real voids here, yet it would be from the spiritual world where voids are more common. This could explain why the blank rune does not have a glyph as such. We can not see into the spiritual world, and have a lot to learn about it, therefore what is to say that we still need to learn how to really look and see, and only then will we see that in fact, this blank rune does hold a significant glyph held within the sights of the spiritual world.
Another name given to this blank rune, or void, is the Great Unknowable for this reason above.
I guess what I am saying, is just because there is no written proof, and just because we can not see it, does not actually mean it does not exist. We cant see love, but we know it is there..._________________  When nothing is sure, everything is possible. |
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Kendra_McKie 2nd Year


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 | Subject: Re: Discussion: The Blank Rune does it really exist? Thu 23 Aug - 5:01 | |
| Make sure to state your opinion does it exist or not? Certainly the rune EXISTS - people use it. I think the question is more geared toward its accuracy, and I fully believe in the Blank Rune. Maybe it wasn't an original member of the 24 runes, but as times progress, so do ideals and beliefs. The idea of Karma has come much more into popular belief, so a rune representing the idea of Karma should as well. Just because the rune has no particularly assigned symbol, all of the runes represent an idea. An idea is not a tangible thing. The fact that the "Blank Rune" is blank represents that is it different from other runes that do have a symbol. The Blank Rune is represented by, well, its blankness. What is the Blank Rune? The black rune represents the 25th rune, more recently added to the original twenty-four. Known sometimes as "wyrd" it represents trust in yourself and in life itself, acceptance your past, present and future, and being open all possibilities as influences are out of your control. It indicates an acceptance and respect for fate. What is its significance within the runic alphabet? It represents a sense of accepting life as it comes and living your life knowing that your actions will come back to you in one way or another. What are different theories? Some theories push the idea that the stone represents the collection of three Norn goddesses or fates of Teutonic mythology, Urd, Verdandi, and Skuld, who represent the three aspects of time-past, present, and future. It may at one point have belonged to Pertho and came about with runic modifications made by the saxons. Works Cited "BewitchingWays.Com." The Meaning of the Blank Rune. 2007. 23 Aug. 2007 <http://www.bewitchingways.com/runes/blank.htm>. "The Rune School." The Rune School: Topics - Blank Rune. 2005. 22 Aug. 2007 <http://www.runeschool.org/topics/rs_t_blank.htm>. |
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Rigby Dumbledore Deputy Head : Potions & HoM Professor : 5th Year : Head of Ravenclaw


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Heather Karrington 1st Year


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 | Subject: Re: Discussion: The Blank Rune does it really exist? Sun 26 Aug - 19:35 | |
| My opinion: The Blank Rune wasn't used in history, but is real and used in today's time. Runes are thought of as mysterious, as secrets, and the Blank Rune is the biggest secret of all-the secret of Fate. It stands apart from the rest of the runes, even as it has become a part of the divination system. The "Blank Rune" or "Odin Rune" has no symbol. I don't think that anyone would recognize a blank stone or wooden disc as a rune, because runes by definition are symbols or glyphs of some kind. The Blank Rune is also called Wyrd (pronounced "weird"), which is the collective name given to the Norns, the three goddesses or fates of Teutonic mythology. Their individual names are Urd, Verdandi, and Skuld; they represent the three aspects of time-past, present, and future. The Norns rule over the karma that each person has accrued during his or her incarnation. Wyrd indicates fate andfatefulness. Events that are fated or inevitable. They cannot be evaded, no matter what you do. Those events indicated in the reading may be good or bad, and the other runes in the cast will determine the nature of the event. When the rune falls in a prominent position, it indicates that if a particular step or choice is taken, life will never be the same again. Again, this could be good or bad. The rune or runes in the result position will often guide the person as to what move he or she should make. Finally, the Blank Rune in a reading can indicate anything that must be kept secret for the good of the person. It can signify things relating to others that the person has no business knowing. Wyrd is often prominent in rune casts where the person is asking for information that is none of his business. Source: http://www.bewitchingways.com/runes/blank.htm_________________  |
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Herbaceoustraitorous Herbology Professor : Flying Professor : Head of Ravenclaw


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 | Subject: Re: Discussion: The Blank Rune does it really exist? Thu 29 Nov - 13:56 | |
| I believe that the black rune does exist. As time has went on we have seen more and more evidence that it does. People obviously try to destroy evidence linking the black rune to anyone. For everyone knows once you start to conceal something, it means it really does exist.
I believe people will always think different things no matter what you tell them. Its all psychological. Its strange how one person or a group of people can damper an item such as the black rune.
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